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Old 12-18-2005, 09:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

If you are referring to the Deep Crystal system, go with the polishing pad first.
Remember to take the least aggressive combination first.

Madman: If you have invested in a pc and pads, can I ask why you are going with OTC products, when there are so many fine products that will perform better, and are available from our sponsors. Not to say that step one won't work, but there are ones that will work better

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Old 12-19-2005, 01:38 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

J, I'm actually an AIO/UPP diehard. I top the UPP with Megs 16, 26, or S100. Prior to this month, I used to do everything by hand, until I discovered the wonders of the PC. So, I've been working with my random orbital ever since.

I was just wondering what other products I could use the PC on. Among the heap of products I have accumulated through the years, I found the Megs Deep Crystal Step One was one which I could not determine with which pad to use. So, it was more of an intellectual exercise on my part to match the products with the proper pads.

But thanks for the interest, J. I appreciate it.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

aren't the orange and yellow propel pads reversed?Ian't the yellow more aggressive than the orange?
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Old 02-11-2007, 10:01 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

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aren't the orange and yellow propel pads reversed?Ian't the yellow more aggressive than the orange?
It seems at Excel detail is clearing out and Pakshak is no longer carring the propel pads, and this is where I pulled my info from.
But I was able to find this on Excel detail
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7" Propel Yellow Medium Cutting pad can be used for medium swirl removal, with your favorite polish!
The orange was listed as a cutting pad but I can no longer find that info.

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Old 02-11-2007, 10:22 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

Here's a link to another pad chart that also lists the Orange pad as being more aggressive.
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:44 PM   #31 (permalink)
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well that chart isn't quite right as the Edge yellow is actually a medium cut and the green is actually a lightcut/polish pad.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

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well that chart isn't quite right as the Edge yellow is actually a medium cut and the green is actually a lightcut/polish pad.
I am at a loss... That is what the charts says and had said

here it is again so you can see what I am saying.

If there are any discrepancies, I am more than willing to make correctons, but please direct me the the reference point. Because I do not wish to make a mistake twice.

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Old 02-13-2007, 10:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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well that chart isn't quite right as the Edge yellow is actually a medium cut and the green is actually a lightcut/polish pad.
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I think wannafbody is referring to the pad chart I posted a link to.
It did show the Propel pads in the order you list them, but it also shows the Edge pads in the order he states.
Since we seem to have a difference of opinion about both pad color charts, maybe some actual references to the manufacturers would be in order.
I did PM Patrick at Excel Detail and ask him about his pad color order and when/if I hear from him, I'll pass it on.
It's going to be very difficult to find correct information on the pads that have been discontinued.

Trying to find out the color/use of just the Propel pads was very frustrating. I can't imagine the amount of time and effort it took to find information on all the ones you listed.

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Old 02-13-2007, 10:40 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

For the propel the info was gathered from a combination available from excel detail & pakshak.
For the edge pads it was easy.


As stated the information was gathered from a number of different sites in order to make this table, and is subject to correction.

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Old 02-13-2007, 10:51 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I noticed that you don't have an orange pad(medium cutting) for the Edge listing. Your chart listed the yellow as the medium cutting pad instead. Here is a link from the DC store which shows their pad colors and cutting abilities.

Edge 2000 6 Inch Foam Pads For Dual-Action Polishers - Dual Action Polishers
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well that chart isn't quite right as the Edge yellow is actually a medium cut and the green is actually a lightcut/polish pad.
Per AG:Yellow Cutting Pad This pad is aggressive, and will cut through deep surface marks and swirls. They work well on heavy oxidation and pitted finishes, and will remove wet sand scratches without causing burning


.Green Medium Cutting Pad This pad is useful for light oxidation and moderate to severe swirls and imperfections. This pad will yield amazing results on older vehicles, and should be used on vehicles with moderate swirls and imperfections. Add a compound or pre-wax cleaner for a flawless finish on base coats. 50 pores per inch (ppi)

Orange Light Cutting Pad This pad is highly versatile, as it can be used on cars with light to moderate swirls and imperfections. We recommend you begin with this pad if you are unsure how deep swirls are, moving up to a Green Medium Cut Pad if necessary. Safe on clear coats. 60 pores per inch (ppi)


Can some of the vendors site vary when listing the pads cutting abilities?
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Three posts, all saying different things about one manufacturers products. Maybe we need Aaron on here to straighten things out.
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Re: Manufacturers Pad colors

Like I stated the chart is subject to change .
The screen shot was taken from Aaron's site just earlier this evening when I thought that there might be an error.

If there has been a change of course I will update the table.

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Old 02-13-2007, 10:57 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Hey Aaron...
Whats the current colors and their aggressiveness, this way I can update the list properly

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Three posts, all saying different things about one manufacturers products. Maybe we need Aaron on here to straighten things out.
Audiboy i agree,i also think the vendors might want to consult with edge so everyone is on the same page
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The AG listing is incorrect- I'd suggest referring to the Edge site
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