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Ari Gold
Join Date: Apr 2004
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2005 TL: "My son took the snow off with a steel shovel"
I thought the same thing... I went and visited mgm2003 this weekend in Delaware. It was more of a leisure and post college planning visit, but he asked for my help on his friend's TL. It's a 2005 that hasn't been cared for well. He had to run inside for something and while doing so his young son decided to clear the snow off his TL with a steel snow shovel. John attached only 3 pictures when I heard about this but upon further review, this thing was cut up bad. The hood, I was almost sure, would need a respray. He really took the paint with him on there. The fenders were both bruised nicely as were both the A-pillars, rear bumper, roof, and skirts. I didn't photograph every area as I wanted to get cracking on this one. I ended up touching up for about an hour straight! If I had to estimate, there were well over 50 R.I.D.S. and the ones on the hood were far longer than 6 inches. The rest of the vehicle wasn't too bad. The clay picked up a lot of junk on the rear bumper and was rather normal for the rest of the vehicle. All in all, not an Autopian owner . Here's what we did:Cleaning -Optimum Wash with vinegar pre-soak -Optimum Clay -Poorboy's Spray and Rinse on wheels -Optimum APC on tires/wells -Flitz on exhaust -Natural Look on wells/tires Scratches -PrepSol wipedown on all scratches -Touch up each scratch very gently with enough paint to allow a "blob" -Allow to dry for 60-90 minutes in heated garage -Sand with variations between 1000>2400 grit papers (3m and Micromesh) -Menzerna Powergloss via rotary and LC Foamed Wool Cutting Pad @ 1500-1700 rpm x 2-5 These steps took about 3 hours in total Polishing and Protecting -Menzerna Final Polish II via PC @ 5 on vertical surfaces (John polishing) -Menzerna Final Polish II via rotary and LC Finishing Pad @ 1500 rpm on horizontal surfaces (me polishing) -IPA wipedown -Z5 on paint, wheels, windows, and tailpipes -Z8 final wipedown Before ![]() Before :down ![]() After ![]() Before ![]() After ![]() Before ![]() After ![]() After polishing ![]() ![]() After Zaino ![]() ![]() A critic ![]() ![]() ![]() I want to thank John for this opportunity. While it was a lot of work, it was great practice for touching up and sanding. I became very confident over the course of this detail. On portions of the hood, I Powerglossed 4-5 times. The owner wanted it good enough that the dealer wouldn't notice when he turned it in for a lease. I'd say the scratches were 90% as new. You could see minor scarring on some spots of the hood but only up close and under certain lighting. Questions/Comments, feel free. |
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Weekend Detailer!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gatineau, QC
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Re: 2005 TL: "My son took the snow off with a steel shovel"
OMG... The results came out great! Man I got a head ache now just thinking that would happen to me... Whoa...
Great work to bring it back!
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There is no cure!
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: MIAMI, FL
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Re: 2005 TL: "My son took the snow off with a steel shovel"
WOW! JUST FRIGGIN WOW!
you really have some skill and patience. amazing how u can make something that looked soo bad, look soo good again... SHOWOFF! my wetsanding jobs look soo mediocre i try not to do them.
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don't feel bad!!
I did the exact same thing when i was younger. It was after we got a big snow. I decide to clear the snow off our silver honda civic hatchback and i regret it to this day. Darn my younger years. All I can say we all make mistakes.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Harker Heights, Tx.
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Re: 2005 TL: "My son took the snow off with a steel shovel"
This is a classic. What a wonderful procedure. I could of said process but chose procedure because this was an operation of talent and expertise.
You have truly honed your skills as a detailer. Something that you should be as proud of as I am in awe of your work. This a Hall of Fame type post. if there is such a thing on this forum!! Interesting choice of pads with FPll after using the rotary and Powergloss. I would have use a more aggressive pad but I am not any where in your league as far as detailing expertise is concerned. Having used Powergloss on other vehicles I needed IP as well as FPll to complete the look.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: 2005 TL: "My son took the snow off with a steel shovel"
Very nice work. What would you charge for that job? I'm finally getting to the point with my touch up skills that I feel comfortable offering it when I see an opportunity. I don't know what to charge on it since it is a lot of work and takes some time.
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Re: 2005 TL: "My son took the snow off with a steel shovel"
Great Job Sean.
![]() The guy must be thrilled, and I'm sure that you saved his plenty of money with that "J"
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Ari Gold
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: 2005 TL: "My son took the snow off with a steel shovel"
Thanks folks
.cwcad: The foamed wool pad from LC finishes cleaner than standard wool, but cuts just as hard. I like it a lot and saves a step of polishing .Jngrbrdman: I would normally charge $30-40/hour for standard procedure detailing and $50/hour for touching up/wetsanding work. For the same vehicle all over again, the price for the exterior alone would be about $300...Add another $50 for the interior. I think $50/hour is fair if you are really putting your time/effort into making sure the owner doesn't need to repaint. |
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