Simple question about claybars

[distrbd]

Hi all.
In another site I have mentioned that according to Autopia's description of their detailing claybars,it does remove oxidation on paint surface,Am I wrong?does claying paint remove oxidation?
Thanks.

[Poorboy]

clay can not remove oxidation only surface contaminates

[distrbd]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

clay can not remove oxidation only surface contaminates

Thanks Steve,This is where I saw the claim:


Car Detailing Clay Bars by Meguiars, Clay Magic, Sonus

[Poorboy]

I've clayed many clear and non-clear coated cars and have never seen paint transfer only dirt .....besides..the lubricant whether it be soap or QD would never let you work that far into a finish

[audiboy]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

clay can not remove oxidation only surface contaminates

My thoughts as well.

[distrbd]

So the claim of their clay bars removing oxidation is bogus,Here is a cut & paste from Autopia:

''Detailing clay is the paint care secret of the Pros! That's because detailing clay can quickly and easily remove most forms of paint contamination with very little effort. Use detailing clay to rub away insects, tar, stubborn road grime, exhaust soot, oxidation, surface rust, paint overspray, "

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by distrbd

So the claim of their clay bars removing oxidation is bogus,Here is a cut & paste from Autopia:

''Detailing clay is the paint care secret of the Pros! That's because detailing clay can quickly and easily remove most forms of paint contamination with very little effort. Use detailing clay to rub away insects, tar, stubborn road grime, exhaust soot, oxidation, surface rust, paint overspray, "

I would agree minus the oxidation and the surface rust would have to be really very very light.

and ps ..it's not a secret

[distrbd]

Steve ,thanks for taking the time to clarify this .

[Brenton]

Surface rust is better treated with Poorboy's ProPolish or equivalent.
Oxidization comes off relatively easy with polish. Keeping it away is tough. I've had a 4 week return on a $200 polish job before.

[Beemerboy]

Originally Posted by PEI Detail

Surface rust is better treated with Poorboy's ProPolish or equivalent.
Oxidization comes off relatively easy with polish. Keeping it away is tough. I've had a 4 week return on a $200 polish job before.

If its SS paint use a sealant on it..helps to keep the finish up longer

[Brenton]

Originally Posted by Beemerboy

If its SS paint use a sealant on it..helps to keep the finish up longer

I typically do, but repaints are notoriously bad for re-oxidization. I could be totally wrong, but in my observation:
-ss whites oxidize and hold well after clean up on the sides, but will return on the hood-trunk-roof after a few months even when sealed
-blue and green repaints when they oxidize are tough to keep shiny
-reds and the red family hold well

What's your (plural) experience?

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by PEI Detail

I typically do, but repaints are notoriously bad for re-oxidization. I could be totally wrong, but in my observation:
-ss whites oxidize and hold well after clean up on the sides, but will return on the hood-trunk-roof after a few months even when sealed
-blue and green repaints when they oxidize are tough to keep shiny
-reds and the red family hold well

What's your (plural) experience?

it really has to do with the quality of the work and materials ...some body shops will just scuff the surface and then repaint ..others will sand it down to the original primer and do it the right way ..mileage will vary as to longevity of the shine and how well products will work to preserve it ...color really shouldn't matter

[phasetrip]

Can I remove bird sh!t shadows and water spots with clay?? Thanks

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by phasetrip

Can I remove bird sh!t shadows and water spots with clay?? Thanks

usually not..clay only removes surface contaminates not imperfections in the finish ...

[Beemerboy]

Originally Posted by phasetrip

Can I remove bird sh!t shadows and water spots with clay?? Thanks

You can take some WS of the surface with clay but as Steve stated generally not...for what you are looking to do, a good chemical polish, or paint cleaner...would be the choice...however if they are etched in the clear, then some wet sanding might be in order