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Empire01 · 07-30-2008, 10:40 PM

Would it be worth it to put the PB Black hole on a vehicle that isn't kept in the garage? Or would I just be wasting money?

GearHead_1 · 07-30-2008, 10:42 PM

It would be fine if you put a topper over it.

CharlesW · 07-30-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Empire01

Would it be worth it to put the PB Black hole on a vehicle that isn't kept in the garage? Or would I just be wasting money?

My reply will probably stir up some controversy, but I think using a glaze is a waste of time, effort and money.
I have not used Black Hole or White Diamond, but I have used several others and don't bother with them anymore.
A good polish, a good paint cleaner/prep, a good LSP and you should be good to go.
Many of today's AIO products can do all of that in one step. Optimum Poli-Seal and Poorboy's Polish with Sealant are two that come to mind. I still feel more comfortable using a LSP after the AIO product.

Empire01 · 07-31-2008, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlesW

My reply will probably stir up some controversy, but I think using a glaze is a waste of time, effort and money.
I have not used Black Hole or White Diamond, but I have used several others and don't bother with them anymore.
A good polish, a good paint cleaner/prep, a good LSP and you should be good to go.
Many of today's AIO products can do all of that in one step. Optimum Poli-Seal and Poorboy's Polish with Sealant are two that come to mind. I still feel more comfortable using a LSP after the AIO product.

I'm getting confused with the different "LSP's" and "AIO's" I know what they stand for.. but in what sequence do you use them? Like I said above, I will be removing the swirls from my truck. And I will be using the SSR's, what exactly should I use before and after the SSR's? I know wash, clay, ssr's, then what comes next? I'm so confused. lol

Troy@DetailCity · 07-31-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Empire01

I'm getting confused with the different "LSP's" and "AIO's" I know what they stand for.. but in what sequence do you use them? Like I said above, I will be removing the swirls from my truck. And I will be using the SSR's, what exactly should I use before and after the SSR's? I know wash, clay, ssr's, then what comes next? I'm so confused. lol

Typically you would use an LSP(sealant or wax) after the SSR's(swirl removers). I personally don't like using glazes because I believe they compromise how well your LSP will perform. To me a glaze is an alternative to an LSP as a "shine and hide" type product that has a very short life.

Another common practice is to use a sealant and then top it with a carnauba. This is something I would not recommend on a daily driver in hot climates but works well for garage queens and show cars.

dionnfr · 07-31-2008, 10:18 AM

Troy just wondering why you would not use a sealant top with carnauba on a dialy driver in hot climates.

Troy@DetailCity · 07-31-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dionnfr

Troy just wondering why you would not use a sealant top with carnauba on a dialy driver in hot climates.

I don't like using natural waxes on daily drivers in hot climates because their melting point is too low. When they melt they allow contaminants to get caught on the surface of the car.

Bunky · 07-31-2008, 02:53 PM

Troy, do you consider something like Collinite as one of these? It has the reputation of being very long lasting.

Troy@DetailCity · 07-31-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunky

Troy, do you consider something like Collinite as one of these? It has the reputation of being very long lasting.

I used to use carnaubas for my detailing and I would notice that they had a tendancy to be oily to the touch the hotter the surface got. I could feel the wax transfer to my finger which I attributed to the carnauba softening (melting). This caused contamination to build quicker. This has been my experience which may not be the case with all carnauba waxes.

GearHead_1 · 07-31-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Troy@DetailCity

I used to use carnaubas for my detailing and I would notice that they had a tendancy to be oily to the touch the hotter the surface got. I could feel the wax transfer to my finger which I attributed to the carnauba softening (melting).

Maximum application thickness should be limited to 1/2".

07-30-2008, 10:40 PM	#21 (permalink)
Empire01 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 43	Re: Buffing Polishing process Would it be worth it to put the PB Black hole on a vehicle that isn't kept in the garage? Or would I just be wasting money?

07-30-2008, 10:42 PM	#22 (permalink)
GearHead_1 SuperDuper Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 1,247	Re: Buffing Polishing process It would be fine if you put a topper over it. __________________ Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

07-31-2008, 10:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
dionnfr Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 43	Re: Buffing Polishing process Troy just wondering why you would not use a sealant top with carnauba on a dialy driver in hot climates.

07-31-2008, 02:53 PM	#28 (permalink)
Bunky Detailing Gnosis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 385	Re: Buffing Polishing process Troy, do you consider something like Collinite as one of these? It has the reputation of being very long lasting. __________________ Al 新年快乐

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